The Ezra Klein Show Behind Trump and Vance Is This Man's Movement
Podcast Episode | 79 min | Talk-Show

The Ezra Klein Show

Behind Trump and Vance Is This Man's Movement

Podcast Episode | 79 min | Talk-Show

Vice President JD Vance gave a speech recently that deserved more attention than it got. Accepting an award at a right-wing think tank, he argued that there's a fundamental brokenness in how we define who is an American. He explained that ...See moreVice President JD Vance gave a speech recently that deserved more attention than it got. Accepting an award at a right-wing think tank, he argued that there's a fundamental brokenness in how we define who is an American. He explained that this is the root of many of our country's problems: a national identity that has become too broad. That was also a core idea of the 2018 book "The Virtue of Nationalism," which caused a sensation on the right. Its author, the Israeli political theorist Yoram Hazony, went on to build a movement. For years, he has hosted NatCon - short for National Conservatism - conferences. Those events have featured speakers like Marco Rubio, who is now the secretary of state, and Senator Josh Hawley. And one of the most reliable speakers, year after year, has been Vance. I wanted to talk to Hazony. What exactly is his argument, his worldview? And are the Trump administration's policies putting it into practice? See less

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Name	Known for
Josh Hawley Self (archive footage) Self (archive footage) See fewer	Transsanity (2022)
Yoram Hazony Self Self See fewer	Body and Soul: The State of the Jewish Nation (2014)
Ezra Klein Self - Host Self - Host See fewer	Explained (2018)
Barack Obama Self (archive footage) Self (archive footage) See fewer	Leave the World Behind (2023)
Marco Rubio Self (archive footage) Self (archive footage) See fewer	Tagesschau (1952)
Donald Trump Self (archive footage) Self (archive footage) See fewer	The Apprentice (2004)
JD Vance Self (archive footage) Self (archive footage) See fewer	Hillbilly Elegy (2020)